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Post by red on Feb 12, 2007 14:25:55 GMT -8
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Post by SURGINB on Feb 12, 2007 15:29:49 GMT -8
I was there and I thought it wasn't a disappointment at all. I saw a lot of neighbors that I recognized. There were people there that I didn’t know, but you couldn’t possible know everyone in the Cove, especially with the entire turnover of homes of late. I think the incumbents did ok, but I could see if you were a Chaignot supporter you could have left disappointed, did seems to me that some of Diane's answers were political double talk that after she spoke you had ask yourself What did she say? Did she answer the Question? I think was clear that the forum didn’t go good for the current Mayor. That was clear because while the other candidates stayed to mingle, she seem to make hasty retreat. The bottom line for me is I want a forum that is going to ask tough questions that relate to current affairs. Of course as the current Mayor there will be facts of your current performance, which will be scrutinized. That’s why we have election, if people like the job she has done she will get votes if they don’t like her record we will vote for some else. We will all know in March what the voters think. Good Luck Candidates
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Post by greylion on Feb 12, 2007 15:59:51 GMT -8
I was also at the candidate's forum and felt it was excellent. I recognized a number of neighbors, but it looked like a mix of Cove residents and community members. That should not be surprising given it was advertised as a community event. And of course it would make sense to have candidate supporters there. It looked like a good mix of residents and non-residents.
I am one of those referred to as thinking Diane didn't directly answer questions, seemed like a lot of political double speak. I voted for Diane during the last election, but my support is not automatic. I have been paying much closer attention this time around and am supporting her opponent. Like Surginb said, the reason we have elections is to make periodic judgements on who we want supporting us. If tenure/experience were the determining factor why have elections? Wait until the incumbent retires or moves on then hold an election, thankfully it doesn't work that way.
I also wish all the candidate well and encourage everyone to vote for the candidate that you would like to see elected.
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Post by athena on Feb 14, 2007 0:34:39 GMT -8
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This board is not moderated on a regular basis. However, I have received legal council that this post contained a slanderous attack against a private individual by name. This post therefore has necessarily been removed. In the future, please refrain from individual attacks. This is a forum for an exchange of ideas.
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Post by athena on Feb 14, 2007 20:57:21 GMT -8
Board Moderator,
There was no slanderous attack made or intended whatsoever. I merely stated the facts as they ocurred. Period.
Readers were asked to draw their own conclusions from the facts. Where you interpreted them one way, someone else could have had a different opinion on those same facts.
There were many, many, witnesses to that fact. The gates were broken and stuck open for weeks. The gates were requested to remain open both to Euclid management and to a resident who had control of the same. The gates were closed within 30 minutes of the 7:00 P.M starting time. The circumstances were definitely a very strange coincidence if nothing else.
Besides, I'm sure legal council must have also mentioned that the person in question has a fiduciary responsibility (someone who stands in a special relation of trust, confidence, or responsibility in certain obligations to others) to act in a way which does not impede the civil/democratic rights of the residents.
But...you know what.... for peace's sake.....let's not go there.....I have nothing personal against this person whatsoever.
I'll be happy to re-post without mention of the name in question.
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Post by athena on Feb 15, 2007 11:51:12 GMT -8
Moderator,
On second thought, perhaps it would be best if the original post of Dianne Mallon's letter be removed from this board all together.
I also have received legal council that her letter countained a slanderous attack against an individual who was/is easily identifiable to the community and all in attendance, as the "host/moderator" as she put it.
Therefore I am requesting, that the original post be removed as per the same reasoning that what used to remove mine.
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Post by SURGINB on Feb 15, 2007 13:02:28 GMT -8
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Moderator just thought we should all remember what this country is based on. Freedom of speech apply to both sides of an issues, so does the right to peaceably assemble. Closing the gate could even be translated as denying participants their 1st amendment rights. And as far as slander is concerned this is private message board if anyone should be consider slander it is the person who writes to public newspaper. You are on slippery slope when you start to censor freedom of speech. I also feel that the letter to the editor that was posted should also be removed if you are removing rebuttal to that letter. The symbol of our courts is holding scale to represent balance and she is also blindfolded to represent unbiasness, let use that as an example.
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Post by athena on Feb 16, 2007 19:31:35 GMT -8
In response to Dianne Mallon's letter I would like to make some important clarifications.
The Jan. 31st candidate's forum at Mountain Cove was a great success as reported by the Tribune and the majority of those in attendance.
It was attended by a mix of Mountain Cove residents (who number in excess of 700 residents) as well as residents from the surrounding community. There were over 100 in attendance. It’s unlikely that anyone could have recognized all of those in attendance. The forum was promoted for the previous two weeks through various medias such as the Tribune, the Mountain Cove web site, and the city's public access channel and posted signs.
The moderators and sorters were all well respected city dignitaries, and professional leaders from surrounding communities who had no stake in Azusa's elections. We were also honored with the attendance of many of our own city staff, school board members, the city clerk from the city of Covina, and a representative from Congresswoman Hilda Solis’s office. Guests and residents alike were all very impressed with the great lengths that were taken to make this event a fair and unbiased Forum.
All candidates were given a fair opportunity to rebut and a warning as to the end of their speaking opportunity. However, they were allowed to finish their thought or sentence as per the principles of decorum followed at our own city council meetings. Mrs. Mallon was misinformed in her statement when she stated that Mrs. Chagnon was not allowed to rebut a question. In fact, on the last question asked of Mr. Rocha, Mrs. Chagnon was asked if she would like to rebut but she declined the offer. All candidates, reporters, moderators, sorters, audio and videotape, etc evidenced this fact. At our next city council meeting, various requests were made by the public to allow for the video to be viewed by the public on the city's public access channel. That request was denied.
As reported by the Tribune, the audience did voice their disapproval over Mayor Chagnon's and Councilman Carrillo's admission of having accepted substantial campaign contributions from developers. Mayor Chagnon's avoidance of a clear answer regarding permitting additional mining by Vulcan Mining was also a sore spot for the people in attendance.
Mayor Pro Tem Rocha has great trust and respect from his constituency. This is true, not only of the residents in Mountain Cove, but also citywide. His past record of ethical representation for the people and refusal to accept contributions from special interests has made him a popular choice for the residents of our city.
Mayor Chagnon lost the trust of her constituency on two separate occasions when she came to Mountain Cove with Vulcan Mining to present their expansion plan. Many others lost faith in her when it was disclosed that she has accepted over $32,000.00 in contributions by outside developers and contractors.
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