Dog Attack on Mountain Laurel

[calif4deck]

On Saturday, February 3rd two women were walking their dogs, all on leashes, up along Mountain Laurel when suddenly a rottweiler pummeled against the backyard gate, forcing it open, immediately ran, lunged, and attacked the dogs, particularly an Australian Shepard which was closest. The rottweiler weighed three or four times as any of the leashed dogs and had no collar for control. The two women were surprised and caught off guard by the attack. Both women were screaming as they attempted to protect the Aussie being attacked and the other dogs. One of the women threw her body weight on to the back of the attacking dog while the other woman attempted to drag the leashed dogs away. The women were repeatedly screaming for help.

Although there were two men on Mountain Laurel who witnessed this dog attack, neither of them assisted the two women. One of the “men” commented to the women that they should not have been screaming! One of the dog walkers actually became so tangled in the leashes that she fell very hard to the ground; she is a cancer patient at the City of Hope, and is my wife. Two women neighbors on Mountain Laurel heard the screaming from inside their homes and rushed out to assist the women in need. Thanks and appreciation goes to the neighbors who assisted the dog walkers. After a report was made to the Humane Society, it was discovered that the rottweiler had NO rabies vaccination. The Aussie is bruised and further assessment will be made by the vet. My wife is left with scraped arms and bruised legs.

It is extremely disappointing and should be embarrassing to the men who stood by merely observing the attack.
2 issues:

1. The dog owner was not responsible for his pet, and the
2. Men who watched as the dog attacked without providing assistance to the women.

The owner of the attacking dog was issued multiple citations; however that does not ensure that he will keep his dog under control in the future nor that the dog will be properly immunized with a rabies vaccination, required of all pet dogs Additionally, neighbors help neighbors in emergencies; They do not stand idly by and watch as the damage takes place.

[Lester]

I'm very so to hear what your family has gone through. That is truly horrible. Please keep us posted as to how your wife and dogs are doing. I hope that they recover fully and quickly.

If there is anything that I can do to help, please let me know.

I was just told yesterday that some coyotees came into the cove about 1 1/2 weeks ago and took a leashed dog away while the owner was walking it. I'm not sure what can be done to prevent that. Maybe we should speak to the forestry service and animal control in regards to safe ideas to protect our pets when we are walking them.

[sammy]

I AM ONE OF THE LADIES THAT WAS WALKING OUR DOGS ON MOUNTAIN LAUREL. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY THAT WALKS THERE DOGS UP THERE, SHOULD KNOW THAT THE DOG IS LOCATED AT 35 MOUNTAIN LAUREL. I DO NOT WISH THAT ANYBODY GIVE THIS FAMILY A BAD TIME, BUT JUST WHAT YOU TO BEWARE OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN.

THIS SCARED ME VERY MUCH. THIS DOG IS VERY DANGEROUS TO OTHER ANIMALS AND MAYBE PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T TURN ON ME. MY GOOD FRIEND AND I DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO KEEP THIS DOG AWAY FROM OUR DOGS, SHE TRYING TO GET OUR DOGS AWAY FROM THIS DOG AND ME HOLDING IT FROM GETTING AWAY AND ATTACKING AGAIN. I HAD A DEATH GRIP ON THIS DOG. WHEN ALL THIS WAS GOING ON AND WE WERE BOTH SCREAMING AND MY DOG SCREAMING I WAS LOOKING FOR HELP AND ABOUT THREE TO FOUR DOORS DOWN THERE WAS A MAN WATCHING THIS WHOLE THING HAPPENING AND DIDN'T OFFER ANY ASSISTANCE. FINALLY TWO WOMEN COME OUT FROM THERE HOMES, RUNNING OVER TO HELP US, ONE HELPING ME AND THE OTHER WOMEN HELPING MY FRIEND. FINALLY WE TOOK ONE OF OUR LEASHES TO PUT AROUND THIS ROTTWEILER SO WE COULD PUT IT BACK IN IT'S YARD AND WHILE THIS IS ALL GOING ON THIS MAN , THE ONE WHO JUST STOOD THERE COMES OVER AND TELLS ME THAT I DON'T HAVE TO SCREAM, I COULDN'T BELIEVE HE SAID THAT,I TOLD HIM ARE YOU CRAZY THIS DOG WAS ATTACKING OUR DOGS WE WERE PANICKED, THEN HE THREW UP HIS HAND AND WALK AWAY. WHAT KIND OF PERSON WOULD ACT LIKE THIS? I AM NOT SURE WHAT SCARES ME MORE THAT A PERSON NOT HELPING PEOPLE IN TROUBLE AND THEN ACTING LIKE HIS FEELINGS WERE HURT BECAUSE I PUT HIM IN IS PLACE OR THIS DOG ATTACKING US AND I MEAN ATTACKING US.

THANK GOD THE TWO WOMEN CAME OUT TO HELP US, THEY WERE LIKE ANGELS TO ME.THEY BOTH CAME RUNNING OUT FROM SEPARATE HOMES AND DIDN'T HESITATE TO HELP US, UNLIKE THE MAN. I WANT TO THANK THESE WOMEN AND LET THEM KNOW THAT MY FRIEND AND I REALLY APPRECIATED IT AND THEY ALSO STAYED AROUND TO HELP CALM US DOWN. YOUR NEIGHBORS SHOULD FEEL GREAT ABOUT HAVING YOU BOTH AS THEIR NEIGHBORS.

BACK TO THIS DOG, I FEEL IF YOU HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL THAT IT IS THE OWNERS RESPONSIBILITIES TO GET THIS DOG MAJOR HELP. SOMEONE LIKE THE DOG WHISPERER WHO TAKES RED ZONE DOGS AND HELPS THEM. IF YOUR DOG IS A RED ZONE DOG AND YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THIS ANIMAL IS UNDER LOCK AND KEY AT ALL TIMES. YOU NEED TO GIVE THIS DOG TO SOMEONE WHO IS.

MY GIRLFRIEND WAS HURT AND SO IS MY AUSSIE AND I AM VERY BRUISED UP,MY LEFT HAND IS SWOLLEN AND MY SHOULDER AND BACK MUSCLE ARE STRAINED.

I HOPE THE OWNER OF THIS DOG TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND GETS HIS DOG HELP AND MAKES SURE THAT HE DOSE NOT RE LIE ON HIS 3 YEAR OLD TO KEEP THE GATE LOCKED. THIS DOG SHOULD NOT BE LOOSE AND THAT HE HAS THE DOG VACCINES UP TO DATE.

[greylion]

I'm sorry to hear of this terrible incident. It could have turned out much worst, thank goodness it didn't. My thoughts are that the dog that attacked should not be allowed to remain in Mountain Cove. It is dangerous and does not belong here. Why is the dog allowed to remain knowing it has attacked other pets and people?

As for the two woman who came to your assistance - thank you. For the man, well I can't write what I am thinking.

[calif4deck]

Thank you for your thoughts and concerns. My biggest disappointment/frustration is knowing that there were two neighbors, "men", who refused to assist the women in need.

[sammy]

I would also like to thank you for the encouraging words.

My friend and I are still very upset and sore and my aussie is very bruised up and dose not seem to be himself. He has not eaten very much since this happened and he is not his bubbly self.

My dog is not aggressive in any way he love's people and all animals. I hope this will not change him, he is a great dog and has many dog friends and people friends in M.C.

I hope that everybody learns that it is not just the wildlife we have to watch out for (remember we moved into their neighborhood) but other peoples so called pets and a so called neighbor who will not help. I am sure that most of our neighbors in M.C. would do everything they could to help someone in distress. I know on our street the men and women would do everything they could to help.

THANKS AGAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND FOR THE TWO LADIES FOR HELPING US

[momma]

Thank you so much for posting this. It is a good warning for all of us who own well socialized dogs and walk them through the community. I also appreciate that you seem to be more angry with the irresponsible owner than the dog or the dog "breed".

It just kills me when people own dogs because they "love" them or because they want them for "protection", but they do not have the time to take care of the dog's needs for exercise, proper training, and socialization. In this case -- not even a rabies vaccination! No one needs that kind of "love".

It is tragic enough when people do this with small dogs. Small dogs can become frustrated, fearful or aggressive biters, but they are more easily contained. When this happens with large dogs, however, a very dangerous animal can result and horrible incidents like yours or worse occur. Usually, the animal (the original victim) ends up being euthanized as a solution to the problem. The real culprit, however, the irresponsible or ignorant owner who caused it all, just goes out and gets another dog.

I am so very sorry that you and your dog had to go through this. I believe I've seen you out walking before and I hope to see you out walking again soon.

[DavieBoi]

Hello - Im the only guy that ran outdoors with concern after hearing the horrible screaming (in addition to my two neighbors both female - but what does that matter). I did not 'witness' the attack: When I came outside, saw that a woman was walking some dogs away from what I guess was the 'scene' and one smallish red dog running without a leash, I ran back into my house to the garage and grabbed a leash to assist in securring the rottweiler. When I came out of my garage and was headed over with the leash to help, one of the 'dog walkers' yelled with extreme anger at me "Is this your g*damn dog!" After being verbally attacked I was no longer willing to help; and, why should I? I walked away. I am not at all embarrassed for walking away from the situation.

It is not good that the rott escaped and charged the dogs, it must have been a very scary situation. There are precautions, I believe that should be taken when walking a dog. You need to be aware that maybe a dog did get out of its yard or, there is a wild coyote (we do live in their land and should respect that); their instinct is approach other dogs. Sometimes with curiousity or in this situation 'not so curious.' I think that even though anxiety can overcome individuals in these situations, people should 'try' remain calm (difficult as it sounds); dogs and other animals can feed off that anxiety.

Disclosing the dog owner's address is not a good idea, nor is it fair. Also, try to get the order of the events correct.

[sammy]

To Davieboi,
You are not only a COWARD you are a LIER and should be ashamed of yourself. The first thing you said to me was stop yelling. I saw you and you watched the whole thing happen,until one of the ladies said something to you and then you came over. And we knew were the dog came from so why would I say IS THIS YOUR G-DAMN DOG to you and not to the two women who did help us. The reason we said the two women is because we didn't have their names so why would this be a issue to you, that we said two women. It sounds like you may have a issue with women.

1) Lets say I did say something wrong are you that big of a LOSER or thinned skinned that you couldn't understand why we were so upset we were under attack by 130lb dog. We were not at a tea party. But first of all I didn't say anything of the kind I needed help and I sure would not of said anything to send a person away from helping us.

2) YOU SHOULD BE REALLY ASHAMED OF YOURSELF NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR. IF YOU WERE ANY KIND OF A MAN YOU WOULD BE APOLOGIZING FOR YOUR LACK OF COMPASSION FOR THE WAY YOU ACTED. I HOPE YOU DO NOT FIND YOURSELF IN A BAD SITUATION OR UNDER ATTACK AND HAVE SOMEONE LIKE YOU SHOW UP AND GET THEIR LITTLE FEELINGS HURT AND THEY THROW THEIR HAND UP IN THE AIR AND WALK AWAY. YOU ARE A VERY SAD,SAD PERSON. I REALLY BELIEVE YOU NEED THERAPY. HOPE YOU RECEIVE IT,

When I go back to re-read your reply it is amazing how you try to make yourself the victim and us the villains. Its not about you it is about what happened to my friend and my dog and how grateful we are for the two women who helped us .

3) The reason you IDIOT I gave the address is because I feel that everybody should know where this dog lives so they can avoid it or beware of it. What is not fair is that this happened to us and all of us are paying for it with bruises,bumps,scrapes and new found fear . That is what's not fair.

4) What planet did you come from? When you said we should stay calm are you human? Do you have any blood running threw your veins at all, we were terrified and screaming for help, which you neglected to give and as far as the little dog goes he was with us and leashed but the rott.scared it to death so it slipped out of his harness and ran for its life

5) Rest a sure Davie we have all of the events in order we were there. But how would you know the order of event when you said you were not there?

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A POMPOUS ASS YOU ARE.


To anybody else who reads this I am sorry but I couldn't let this man lie and not say anything about it.

[sammy]

Momma, thank you very much

[mtncvr5]

Davieboi,

Sounds like you were in the wrong place at the wrong time! Trying to help a woman who is in fear... isn't that like...fear itself!!!!!!!

[Hosermage]

well said, i was just about to say similar, but forgot my password.

[mtncvr5]

I agree with the last comment. It does need to "settle down" a bit. Because of the "situation" it sounds like it was a little scarey and maybe with all the different breeds of dogs involved, that a lone could've caused some frightening encounters. To blame even the homeowner and owner of the dog is rather harsh also. Accidents happen! I have seen MANY animals loose around the Cove. Just because it happened to be a Rottie, does not mean anything! I have had "ankle biters" scare the heck out of me! I have walked our dog and had dogs scare me, dogs approach me, and to tell you honestly, I own a very sweet dog who LOVES people and children, but when it comes to OTHER DOGS or ANIMALS....WATCH OUT!!!!!
SHE WILL ATTACK! It is just natural for her to be territorial! I would not want it to be blamed on me for the way my dog handles herself. I think this topic should now be closed, it happened, it was unfortunate, and for ALL OF US to " take caution" when walking our animals ANYWHERE in the Cove!! One more thing.... to attack the owner of the dog in such a manner should only prove that emotions were involved, and that maybe the emotions of the dog owner be considered also. I am quite positive he felt aweful too!

[sammy]

If you read any of my post you would know that I was warning the people about the dog and location. I understand that not everybody can get involved in something like this, but then use your phone. My attack on Davie is because I truly believe in what I saw and read from him is true, in my opinion. Once you saw were I was going with my post you should of stopped reading it. You have a choice to read or not to read. I am a woman, if you would of really read all of the post you would of know that. As of me getting waaay out of line you are right. I shouldn't of let Davie's actions or comments get to me, but I did and said what I felt about him. To mtncvr5 what did you mean by your comment, helping a women in fear..... Yes emotions are involved when you are being attacked etc. Once again, the reason we said women and men and rotti was for ID purpose only. The owner of the dog you feel sorry for him. The END

[greylion]

Personally if I were Sammy, I would file a police report on the dog and the owner, then I would file a complaint with the homeowners association based on the dog being a danger to the community.

[mtncvr5]

Sammy-
I was NOT MEANING ANYTHING AT ALL about helping " women in fear." In fact, I was pretty much kidding! You know how we can get when we are in fear! We get kinda crazy-at least I do! I think it is safe to say that women-in general-are alittle more high-strung! Please, don't take it offensively, because that IS NOT and WAS NOT my intention at all! The owner of the dog.......yes, I feel like he has apologized, felt bad about the whole thing (remember, he was not even home) What if this had happened to you, and just maybe, BY ACCIDENT, one of YOUR dogs got out and did this. Wouldn't you feel bad? Would you want people posting "stuff" about you? Would you want your dog to be taken away and not allowed to live in "the Cove?" Come on now, be honest. Can't we all just get along? DITTO...THE END!

[mtncvr5]

OH BROTHER !!!!!!

[mtncvr5]

We can't even get the Homeowners' Association to fix the Entrance Gate and Exit Gate in a timely fashion. Why would we even think they would bother with this issue! Police report?
Don't our Officers have more important demands on them as it is? WHY?
LET IT GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[greylion]

I think public safety is a police issue. I am not telling anyone else to do anything, I simply stated if it was me, that's what I would do. I have read too many stories of children being killed and mauled by agressive dogs, not only other pets.

I believe the association has a legal obligation to ensure a safe environment. I believe the association has fiduciary responsibilities. If the association did nothing a good lawyer would have a field day with the "association" if this same dog had a similar incident.

This is my last post on this issue, but I am not so naive to believe it is all innocent and we should not worry. Dog owners have a responsibility to keep their pets under control at all times, if their home or not.

[morecowbell]

Hi Neighbors,

Just wanted to weigh in on a couple of concerns. First, I have to believe Sammy has every right to be upset. I take my two year old daughter walking down Mountain Laurel quite frequently. Knowing the house gives an idea what part of Mountain Laurel to avoid. There is an undeniable public interest in knowing which house it is. Any reasonable person would want to know for obvious reasons.

Now, with all due respect to RreyesSGV, the Good Samaritan law gives protection to those who are not legally required to act but chose to do so as long as they perform with good intention and reasonably, and within their level of training. You are correct to note there is no legal obligation to act in this case. The law is loath to impose duty, but when it does, it makes it clear that failing to act subjects one to the legal doctrine of negligence. But, Rreyes, this is not a court of law and our actions are not so measured. This is a community and, ostensibly, one would think, that our actions should be guided by an ethical, moral standard. There is no legal obligation, but what relevance has this in our case? If I were in a situation where I needed a helping hand, I have no doubt I would want Sammy there since she seems to have an ethical temperament I could rely on (and not be disposed to hiding behind a legal doctrine). If I have to give you reasons to act to assist me in my time of need, you are ethically challenged. So be it. Chose your neighbors carefully.

Davieboi, I'm sure you were well-intended and meant no malice. But I think Sammy has your number, and I agree with her, when she points out that you labor to make yourself the victim here. Your suggestion that there "are precautions that should be taken when walking..." is a wee bit disingenuous. This makes it seem like there is blame to be laid at the feet of the victim. What's next, keep your eyes to the sky just in case a meteor should come striking your head? Is it unreasonable to assume we can't take a walk with friends and not be attacked in our community? Is this not the reason for moving here in the first place?

Finally, as a general comment, I would like to say that "accidents" don't just happen. We give too much credence to random circumstance and too easily surrender our personal responsibility to the solar winds. As already noted by someone else, ownership carries responsibility. It sounds to me that the dog's busting out its backyard is emblematic of the owner's capacity to be a responsible owner - otherwise there wouldn't be the collateral issue of lack of vaccinations.

Thank you for hearing me out.

Morecowbell

[mtncvr5]

THIS WAS AN UNFORTUNATE A C C I D E N T !!!!!!! Good grief people- S T O P !!!!!
This could have happened to ANY ONE OF US !!!!!! HOME OR NOT!!!!
And just how could the association have a legal obligation to ensure a "safe" environment?
Hellooooooooooo, we live in the mountains! We have snakes, bears, bob cats, mountain lions,, etc! The association is NOT responsible for an animals' natural instinct or behaviour! Thank God, no one was seriously maulled, or killed! This was just a frightening experience that has been TOTALLY taken out of content.

hmmmmmm, can we talk about something else, PLEASE?

[beautifulhome1]

If you have not done so file a claim against the homeowner's insurance company of the idiot owner of the dog! Get medical attention for your injuries and of course the dog's and give the owner the bills. He is responsible. His insurance company will either canx him or exclude his dog which may force him to get rid of the dangerous animal. I cannot believe that animal control is allowing the dog to remain? What if that was a child? Have you reported to Euclid and the legal team that we pay for in our dues?

[beautifulhome1]

Wow Davieboi u do not have any ba**'s. Some one yells at you and you duck dick and run!!Complain like a little girl, who raised you? Actually most small children would have been happy to assist because they have compassion and morals. Great set you have.., oh they are missing!! Now that makes sense. Did they roll down the street? Two women are able to help but you are just too afraid....someone raised their voice, run, run, run. What an excuse. What a useless piece of ****.

[beautifulhome1]

The more I think about this, the more angry I become. It is lucky for the Rot that this did not happen on our street as I would have taken a shovel to the rot and it is not the rot's fault but the owner but the Rot would have paid. Rot's should not be in our neighborhood! We should get the city to ban Pit's and Rots. Let's all contact Dianne. It is too bad but the owner's are either ignorant or negligent, a fine line. We should not have to deal with either.

[rknrllr2u]

WOW...sounds like we have some pretty angry people posting rude and malicious comments eh? For your information, there are ALOT of Rott owners in the "Cove." These dogs are not "toy dogs!" They are very protective and territorial of their families and properties. They are only as visious as they are trained to be! I know a lot about this particular breed. They are very good with children and people in general. As with ANY animal, they have natural instincts. Heck, I have been "charged at" by a Pitbull, a Pomerranian, and a Springer Spaniel-while walking my child. Is it fair to say that these "breeds" move out also? GET REAL PEOPLE! In fact, about 3 weeks ago, I came out of my neighbors house and was greeted by a very little (kinda ugly-poor thing) not sure of the "breed" and he started barking and growling at me, so I ran back in my neighbors. He was a "loose dog in the COVE!" Oh..My..gosh!
But for you all to say the "Rottie" doesn't belong here, etc. is just plain...well? I understand that there was NO "attack" nor was there "ANY blood" nor was anyone "maulled" or seriously hurt. I agree, ACCIDENTS do and can happen. We see this everyday on the freeways. We can not assume that the owner is ignorant or negligent as you say, because I believe he apologized and was completely in compliance with authorities. NO ONE WAS BITTEN OR KILLED! Thank Goodness! In fact, it sounds like the Rottie was well-trained enough to somewhat "back-off." Especially listening to strangers giving commands! NO ONE can tell us what kind of animal we can or cannot have, here in the "Cove" or anywhere for that matter- nor can they tell us where to live -Be Serious! I agree with the 5th post up ....can we let this topic go??? ENOUGH ALREADY! Just take a breath...and let it go. (You should all really stop the name calling also! Adults don't behave in this manner, have some class!)

[sammy]

To the last post. When did this owner apologize and to whom did he? wasn't us the ones who the dog attacked. He was covering his own behind when he spoked to the Humane Society he blamed it on his child. He should be sorry, but that does not make it alright lets see what he is doing to make sure his dog and yard are safe for all of us.

Were did you get the idea this dog was trained, if I hadn't held on to him and plied him off my dog and my friend didn't get the rest of the dogs safely away the dog would of attacked again. He did not listen to anybody and but for the Grace of God this dog would of continued to attack. Why? To the people defending this owner and dog not understand that this one dog is dangerous. The rotti slammed threw the gate and attacked. All we were doing was enjoying a walk with our dogs, we didn't sit out front and tease this dog so the dog would get to this dangerous behavior.

What if this was you? and you were under attack, what would you have done?

THIS DOG IS NOT TRAINED AND DID NOT RETREAT TO THE BACK YARD I DRAGGED IT TO THE BACK YARD WITH A LEASH and help from one of the women WHO OPENED THE GATE AND KEPT IT CLOSED UNTIL I COULD SAFELY UNLEASH THIS DOG AND EXIT THE YARD.

Why is the name calling more of an issue to some of you then what actually happened?. I wonder how forgiving you would be if this was you?

When you have animal like this there should be no accidents, to call it that is insane .Would they leave their front door open by accident so their son could walk out and get hit by a car an worse.They should be sure this dog could not and will not ever again be around other animals, they know their dog is dangerous, it just didn't wakeup on the wrong side of the bed. As I said get this dog help or give it to someone who can.

Many people have told me that when they have walked by this house that this dog goes crazy and they stopped walking up there, that is not fair that we should afraid to walk in our neighborhood, because someone has an unstable dog.GET IT HELP

Before you make a comment read what happened

[beautifulhome1]

FyI: Most all Insurance companies exclude from coverage certain breeds of dogs, including Pits and Rot's. Cities are also starting to ban certain breeds from residing within their boarders such as Denver, NYC, etc. We all should contact our mayor as ask if any plans like this are in the works. Please note these dogs are by nature aggressive and behavior unpredictable. We don't want to wait till a child, adult or animal is injured or killed. We register and post our sex offenders, well the dog and owner are violent offenders.

[morecowbell]

Hi folks,

I think Rknrllr2u has point in suggesting this issue has reached a a well-deserved end. Regardless of how one might feel about Davieboi's actions, I don't think resorting to name calling is an appropriate response. I wasn't at the scene on this occasion but anyone who has any experience with dogs will verify, having to control a 100lbs dog makes for a precarious situation absent protective gear and proper implements. Of course as ex-post facto observers we have the benefit of viewing the situation with "outcome knowledge" behind us. But in real time it is a different story. A trained emergency responder might not necessary view Davieboi's action as all together unreasonable if he felt it was not safe to proceed. My initial issue with Davieboi was that he seemed to suggest that the victims did not take the proper precautions and insinuates they somehow brought it on themselves.

I don't agree, however, that accidents just happen. "Accidents" is a term of art describing a convergence of circumstances yielding unfavorable consequences; and these unfavorable consequences have triggers. Sometimes these triggers are out of our control (acts of God) but more often than not, they are the consequences of failure of due diligence. The dog attack is no more an accident than the sinking of the Titanic or the wrecking of the family car while driving under the influence. Accidents, by and large, are preventable.

Finally, I've owed a Rott, Springer Spaniel, two German Shepards and a boxer and several mutts along the way. The Rott was no more dangerous than the other animals and was quite friendly to children. It wouldn't be a great idea to send my way a petition to exclude these animals in our community as I believe this would solve nothing. The suggestion that insurance premiums are indicative of the inherent dangers associated with owning these dogs is misplaced, much the same way that arguing sports cars are more dangerous than minivans because insurance costs are higher. It's the driver, my neighbor, it's the driver that is the source of the problem, not the vehicles.

Regardless, we are all neighbors and need to get along. If the owners of the dog are truly apologetic then we should accept it at their word and move on. I will still exercise caution while walking down their street until I am certain that this has been remedied satisfactorily. Until then, please everyone have a great day.

[beautifulhome1]

Just a note: Insurance premiums are not set by these dogs but The the following carriers will not insure you if you have one: Travelers, Allstate, State Farm, Farmers, on and on and on. All of these carriers do not charge an extra premium THEY WILL NOT INSURE YOU. If you did not disclose or say you have an older policy when they did not ask, at the time of a current claim with one of these breeds these carriers and all others will exlude coverage for any exposure from this animal and then non renew your coverage at renewal. I don't believe all of these carriers are just cranky, they know the problems as they SEE THE CLAIMS. While there are always exceptions as your Rot may very well have been, the general rule is that they are unpredictable and that makes them dangerous. Of course a small breed can get upset and nip you, even bit you but the damage from my 10-30 lb dog is nothing compaired to A pit who locks his jaws and a Rot who has the ability to kill as well. I personally have never heard of an attack from a Golden, as it is not in their blood line to do so. So yes cities are exluding these breeds and not because they are uneducated and out to smear the breed, but they are trying to protect their citizens from clear and present danger. I have had many muts and various breeds thru the years and I would never think to bring into my house a Rot or a Pit, as i do not want a problem now or in anytime in the future. Get another dog.. there are a million other's in shelters that you don't have to worry if someone walks down the street and it get's out...or you have a neighbor's child over and god forbid the child angers or frightens it, by accident, and the child is killed.. What are you people thinking? Why would you take this exposure and risk. Would you be able to live with yourself? Wild animals are banned from our homes but yet we have these breeds? Hopefully not for long.

[momma]

You know, last September, there was an adorable dachshund on Wildflower Way who loved her people and kids.

Without warning one day she ran down her driveway and attacked my 14 week old bichon puppy who was being walked on her leash. Fortunately, my daughter picked up the puppy quickly enough that the only damage was a chunk of fur pulled out of her back, just above her tail.

Its took months for that spot of coat to be filled in. She'll be a showdog when she matures so her coat is important. It's also important that she be confident and not afraid of other dogs. At the time the situation was quite upsetting.

A few weeks later that same dachshund attacked my neighbors's little silky terrier, this time even running accross the street to do it. My neighbor, whose dog was also on a leash, had to kick the dachshund to get her off. My neighbor confronted the owner, and quite unlike her normally calm demeaner, she really "told her off". Again, very, very upsetting.

I filed a written complaint with Euclid Management. A letter was sent to the owner of the dachshund. I made it a point to repeatedly walk my dog past that same spot so she would learn not to be afraid there. We never saw the dog out again. Those people have since moved.

My point is ... unexpected, unfair, rotten stuff sometimes happens in life. The best thing we can do it to put our energy toward recovery and move on. The worst thing we can do is to let a bad experience consume us. Life to short to waste.

My husband always uses the quote, "Hindsight is 20/20". I'm thinking that everone involved would go back and do something differently in this situation if they could now that they've seen it played out.

Peace.