Eddie Alvarez for City Council

[1gdwireman]

Eddie Alvarez is a long time resident of Azusa. He has witnessed many changes in Azusa. His resume speaks for itself. You can get an insight to Eddie by reading his posting in another tread. I was very happy to post for Eddies statement under my screen name because I know he's right for Azusa.
We're experiencing a time right now where we feel somewhat let down by our politicians but if given a chance, Eddie will do what's best for Azusa and not himself. He has spent his adult life serving his community and country in one way or another. We humbly ask for your vote and support for Eddie Alvarez for City Councilman March 3, 2009

[sparticus]

What has Eddie Alvarez done for Azusa ? I got his mailer a couple of weeks ago & all it said was that he is a tax auditor & belongs to a few clubs in town. These are primarily drinking clubs, The Knights of Columbus, American Legion and so on. I think we deserve someone on the city coucil who can do more than just hoist a beer. Has he served on a city commission or anything ? We need someone who has done something in the city besides live here all their life.

[1gdwireman]

Sparticus. I often wonder what your motivation is. I'm sure everything you do and say is calculated and has an alterior motive. I'm in the American Legion also. You know how I got there? Same way Eddie did. By serving my country. I can't believe you would disgrace our vets there affiliations like this. Do you even know what the American Legion is about? The knights of Columbus is a Catholic gentlemans club that serves the community, seniors, youth, you know all the things Gonzo wishes he could be? Hey and guess what, we now have a president that started his career by serving his community. If Gonzo was any type of Vet you wouldnt be writing this. The problem is that Eddie is by far a better candidate. He's smart, educated, well spoken,knows finance,has values. How do you start a political career without community involvment.
What also burns me up is your deceptive ads about the Hilda Solis endorsement. I spoke to Drew, and Adrianna, her campaign managers and they have asked you 3 times now to stop using her name but you refuse. Why not win an election fairly? Do you have to lie to your constituents? That's a pretty dirty way to gain ground. By the way, thank you for removing Gonzos sign from the foreclosed properties, tacky tacky!
I guess we should have let you run Eddies campaign the way you claimed to have been, 1 month ago. You attend his dinners,meetings. donated to his campaign, and now that people are starting to see how inadequate your candidate is, you resort to insulting not only a fine man, but Veterans, and Knights, and all the people who back them. Shame on you!

[1gdwireman]

Hilda Solis Campaign managers

Drew & Adrianna [phone]

I urge you all to call and find out for yourself. Hilda Solis asked Gonzales to stop his ads about her endorsement. He was told not to distribute any mailers and we all received one today. He is NOT, I repeat NOT endorsed by Solis!!!!!!

[1gdwireman]

Sparticus donated to his campaign. Urged Eddie to run again. Now he says Eddie is not fit.

[sparticus]

In all fairness you were the one to throw mud at Gonzales first with the posting of his yard signs in mountain cove. That is what you are supposed to do when you are running is knock on doors & ask people to put up your sign & remove it when the election is over. Because someone appears at city functions you say they have no life, that is what a city councilman does once they are elected. Eddie's mailer looked pretty much the same as for the content as it did 2 years ago. You can't run the same old campaign & expect a different result, but you run it your way & we will see how the votes add up on election night. I have nothing against veterans as I come from a family of veterans dating back to the Civil War & have relatives buried in Arlington National Cemetery. If Eddie is what you say he is as far as a candidate, then azusans will see it & vote for him, but it will take more than that to win. Lastly the lesson here is , if you can't take it , then don't dish it out as far as insults are concerned to the candidates. Remember there are 2 seats available, may the top 2 win.

[1gdwireman]

First of all, this has nothing to do with Gonzales signs, and I'm not the one who started the mud throwing, wrong poster Sparticus. I would expect a person elected to attend all fuctions....That's why we vote for them! But when you go on and write off our Veterans organizations and any other commendable charity groups, as merely a place to sit around and drink, you offend alot of people.

[1gdwireman]

As far as Eddies mailer,(the one you kept asking Eddie about),
There are some things that havent changed.

He's still a great husband and father of three.

He's still in the Navy(serving his country)

He's still a tax auditor( keeping people honest with taxpayers money)

He's still in th e Knights (helping his immediate community and supporting his local church) In fact last night he was at a speaking engagement to raise money for a young lady at the Knights. I'll fill you in on the exact details later.

He's still in the American Legion (serving his fellow Vets)

He's still involved in the Azusa Youth program ( helping to keep kids out of trouble and stay focused on the positive)

He's still a Veteran (of course that will never change)

Now you tell me, How are ANY of these things a bad thing?
I believe that all these things and much more about him make him a great candidate for council.

At least everything on his mailer is true. By the way, I'm not managing his campaign, Im just a friend of over 20 years.

www.mtncove.com/eddie%20Alvarez-2.pdf

[amplified]

Sparticus, Sparticus, Sparticus!!! Another election and and of course you are on the other end talkin trash. You need another Hobby. Or better yet maybe you should run for office so you can get drug through the mud Russ! OOPS did I say Russ??? I mean Sparticus.

[sparticus]

As far as the mailer is concerned how does he stand out from the rest. 1) he has lived here all his life, 2) he is good with finances. 3) he is in the naval reserves 4) he belongs to a few clubs in town. Don't we already have someone on the coucil who has the same qualifications as these. My question is what do you bring to the council that we don't already have?

[amplified]

Hey sparticus as far as Eddie's mailer is concerned one thing totally stands out!!!!!He is not like Gonzales saying Hilda Solis is indorsing him. You can cry all you want that he had those mailers printed up prior to Dec. But we all know thats not true!! Some of those pictures where just takin in Jan. i.e. Toy for tots toy drive. I see him in a picture with the car club guy's giving the toy's away, but we all know Eddie was the one at Jakes putting that whole drive together.
Try again sparticus your camp is running into a dead end!! Stick to painting curbs and planning softball games. Step aside and let the real qualified person do the job. EDDIE FOR COUNCIL!!!

[redbarron]

Why all the fuss over Hilda Solis ? She does not live or vote in Azusa. It is well known that Eddie did the toy drive for the kids and that is a good thing. You are turning this election into Eddie vs. Gonzo and that is wrong.

[1gdwireman]

redbarron, you are absolutely right. Two years ago Eddie was aked to "team up" with another candidate but he chose to run his campaign on his own merits, and thus run a clean campaign. He came up a bit short but he knows he can do good for Azusa if given a chance. Any of this bickering you see is by no means sponsored by Eddie as he has been running a clean campaign. It started with 1 individual.

[amplified]

redbarron and 1gdwireman you are right.
I in no way am trying to make it a Gonzo Eddie thing. Although just trying to open sparticus' eyes that Eddie is doing a great job. I just look at Eddie's mailer i recieved and see facts. Then I look at Gonzo's and I see some shady stuff.That is all.
Ive lived here for a few years now and it is the first time I see someone as qualified as Eddie running for the job. I also support the great men from the American Legion and Knights. Without groups like that this city would not be as strong. And just for the record you don't need to know how to hoist a BEER to be any of those clubs!! MR. SPARTICUS!!

[sparticus]

Well Eddie came up more than a little short the last election, he was one up from the bottom, he only out polled Andera Cruz. Eddie is a fine candidate & if given the chance he could do some good things as a city councilman. What I have a concern with is his campaign staff & how they have bashed Gonzales over his mailers which are fine & don't attack anyone. They also attack him for his Veteran curb I.D. program which is a good program for Azusa & other cities want to do the same thing in their cities. If this program is so bad, then why does Eddie have his curb painted in front of his house with one of Gonzo's flags for veterans? Talk about attacking the veterans, look in the mirror. I don't know how long you have been viewing this board, but alot of people do who don't live in Mountain Cove but vote in Azusa. Look at how many viewings there are to each thread. You can be proud that Eddie has lost 6 votes out of this household because of your antics. How many votes can Eddie afford to give away in this election which will probably have a low voter turnout anyway. The lower the voter turnout, the better for the incumbents as far as winning is concerned. So keep up the good work because you are going to cost Eddie the election.

[redbarron]

Mr. Gonzales knocked on doors last weekend here in the 'cove. He seems to be a very nice man and I let him put his sign in my yard. I will be voting for him. I have not made up my mind about the other yet. From what I am reading here I have some concerns over Mr. Alvarez's judgement as far as his campaign committe is concerned and I have to wonder what kind of councilman would he be if he associates himself with people who attack the good work that someone has done while in office. I hope Mr. Alvarez can get control of his campaign workers and be more positive towards his opponents, otherwise I would have to agree that he will lose. People don't like this type of campaining at all.

[1gdwireman]

Well I havent seen anyone from Eddies campaign bashing Gonzales or his signs. I am helping Eddie with his campaign and I did state Gonzales is putting out deceptive fliers.....it's a fact. I have given names & numbers on who to call and get the info for yourself. I've known that for weeks now but didnt put it out until Sparticus attacked Eddie. This election is not between Eddie and Gonzales for there are 2 seats. Did I defend a great friend whos character is being attacked by dismissing his work and committments as just a drinking opportunitist. Come on anyone would react accordingly. Sparticus, the fact that Eddie has lost six votes in your home is no surprise. You broke bread with him, you sat at his kitchen table with his wife and kids, you asked for his signs to put them up for him. You are acting like you just stumbled across his name and his mailer.

[sparticus]

If anyone was attacked by Eddie's camp it was me at the Legends restaurant for another campaign that has nothing to do with Eddie's. I wanted to show Eddie how to win at the local level but he has people that don't want that. Eddie will not lose this election because of his resume, he will lose because he does not have experienced people in his camp that know how to run a winning campaign. Everyone at that table with the exception of me was on a losing campaign the last time out. Running for city council on a couple of thousand dollars and expecting to win is foolish. The going rate for a coucil seat now is a minimum of $ 10,000. If you can't raise that type of money, then stay home because you are not going to win. The only 2 candidates running this time who are doing it the right way are Gonzo & Naccachian. They have phone banked my house 4 times, they have sent out 3 mailers each & they are walking & knocking on doors. The absentee voters have already voted so you have missed that boat which is the key to victory. You have 2 weeks left, lets see what you can do, but I think it is a little too late .

[redbarron]

I had 2 young ladies knock on my door today representing Arthur Vasquez who is running for city treasure. They were also asking for me to vote for Eddie Alvarez for city council. I kindly declined their offer.

[amplified]

redbarron AKA Sparticus' other half!! Freedom of choice is a great thing. I commend you for voicing your choice. Although I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you. I will as my whole family will be voting for Eddie. Sleep tight!!!

[sparticus]

I see a few Alvarez signs have sprung up in the 'cove. They won't last long with the rain coming tomorrow as they are cheap-made signs that have fallen apart all over town. You know the saying,"you get what you pay for"

[amplified]

Is that the best thing you could come up with !! Russ OOPS I mean Sparticus??

[sandra]

Dear Amplified,

It has recently come to my attention that you have associated the poster known as "Sparticus" as my husband.

You are further implicating that "Sparticus' other half", which can be misconstrued as Sparticus' spouse, therefore myself, is posting on this board as "RedBarron".

Although, on inspection, I did not find anything "RedBarron" said to be offensive in any way,
I would like to state, for the record, that I have not made any postings under that name or any other name on this board for the last several years.

Personally, I do not believe this is an impartial and unbiased board and therefore not a democratic forum in which to express/discuss any ideas that may be contrary to the owners/operators of this board.

Therefore, I have no intention of posting any of my thoughts or views on this board whatsoever and would very much appreciate it if you would cease to make the assumption that I have done so.

I would be more than happy to discuss any of your concerns in person or you may contact me at my e-mail address at [e-mail].

Thank you in advance for your cooperation with this matter,

Sandra

[sistermorphine]

I know how sensitive people have gotten about sparticus questioning the veterans clubs like the Knights and what not...so let me know that my intention is not to disrespect, but seriously.
How does being in the Naval reserves contribute to any qualifications to be on ANY city council. honestly its completely irrelavent..i would understand this being a qualification if he had actually seen battle, and therefore gone through the trauma and loss that watching buddies die at your side would bring. i deeply respect anyone who has ever volunteered for that kind of stress for the sake of the country, that obviously takes a lot of guts and character. HOWEVER. eddie was in the RESERVES. which means he never saw a day of battle. maybe he learned a couple training excercises and some discipline while he was there and thats just dandy. but soldiers in the reserves are mostly weekend warriors and recieve a beautiful salary despite never being used in combat. being a "veteran" to me means shooting bullets at an enemy and having to face your own mortality in battle. can we honestly say eddie has THIS kind of experience? if he has, then i stand corrected and he truly deserves all of the respect of a seasoned vet.
however i do not think this is true . we shouldnt just hand to respect someone because of a title that they can throw in front of their name like "veteran". supporters and opposers of eddie, are we being honest here??
I truly think that his supporters are placing an over importance on this detail to pump up his pretty weak resume. yes he knows about money...so does pretty much everyone who runs for this kind of position...yes hes lived here all his life...but once again lets not hand out respect for a completely irrelevant trait. does that really qualify someone for a leadership position? if a senile old woman who lives here all her life, should we then make her mayor because that is all it takes to understand the complexities of politics and a city's industry? the answer is no. if someone had moved here 5 years ago and had an unending repitoire of incredible accomplishments, i frankly would vote for that person over someone who was a lifetime resident who wants the seat to feel more important..
eddie alvarez was relatively unheard of before this election. i wonder if his participation in city events is motivated by his sense of charity, or rather his recognition of a good photo op. i was very disapointed to not see certain individuals who in my opinion are much more qualified than eddie, not run this year. but then again i did start off with a negative impression of eddie after the last election, when i recieved my mailer AFTER the election. how can i expect someone who can't keep track of their mailer to be competent enough to help run a city??? then again bad impressions can change and his supporters SEEM to have a reason to support him other than their friendship with him (i hope?) but their arguments are failing to convince me...but hey i have until march 3rd to decide my vote right?

i ask you, prove me wrong.

[redbarron]

it is too bad that Rosales, Naccachian & Alvarez did not team up and run together as a team in this election. We could have called it the " Granola" team as you have a Nut, Fruit and a Flake all running at the same time.

[atoz]

I am not a supporter of Naccachian, RedBarron. I happen to support Gonzales. But you should be EMBARRASSED and HUMILIATED that you made that comment about Naccachian. I have gay friends in Azusa, Robert Gonzales has gay friends. Many wonderful GAY people live in Azusa. You probably even know some, but I doubt you would have the guts to talk like that to their faces, right? You are an embarrassment, and if I knew you by face or name, I would tell you straight up instead of on here. You should take that foot of yours and insert it right into your mouth. You are not the only one.

To Sparticus - Do you know the best thing you could do for Gonzales? Just be quiet. Say nothing else. Close your mouth. You are not helping him.

I say this because unlike you, I've known him forever. He is my friend and I know his character. I support him and you are hurting him every time your mouth opens. You need to bury your ego, recognize that YOU are not responsible for the success of any candidate and stop trying to paint yourself as the "maker" of political leaders, and you are not the expert you think you are. You have done so many things and offended so many people in different ways recently and since the last election, it's just too detailed to get into here. I don't get why no one close to you ever tells you because sure they must know! Gonzales is not the unpredictable egotistical person that you are. You are not an example of Gonzo. If he has a weakness, it is that he is too kind to tell you the truth.

I hope the people of Mountain Cove do not hold it against any candidate because you happen to support them.

[amplified]

Hat's off to you atoz!!!Well said!!! Is it not crazy how Sparticus just does not learn election after election that these tactics of his just does not work. He tries to throw mud at everybodies camp and plays the victim??? What is his claim to fame? who has he really gotten elected?? NOBODY!! Everybody I know can't stand him and just pushes him aside, Like the pest on the playground when we where kids.
Here is a little info for everybody on what kind of man Sparticus is!! Sources tell me that he donated $500 to Eddie Alvarez' camp and after being called out for running his mouth about EDDIE'S CAMP ASKING HIM TO RUN EDDIE'S CAMP. Which has no truth what so ever. he has demanded a full refund. TACKY, TACKY ,TACKY!! He can't even buy a spot on someones camp.!!!! Move back to Monrovia Sparticus because Azusa don't need people like you!!!
Here's the funny part to all this. Eddie still has every bodies respect and everybody that I know believes in him. The only one losing peoples vote is Gonzo because of Sparticus' politcal circus he chooses to run. Thats a shame because every time I talk to Gonzo he seems to be a very nice person. It's hard to believe he would associate himself with a man like Sparticus.

May the Best Man Win!!!!!
Go Eddie!!!

[amplified]

To sistermorphine!!! Just for the record Mr. Alvarez was called to "ACTIVE DUTY" overseas after 911. He served in Operation Enduring Freedom. THAT'S RIGHT HE WAS CALLED AWAY FROM HIS FAMILY FOR NINE MONTHS TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY AND DEFEND WHAT OUR COUNTRY HOLDS SO SACRED TO OUR HEARTS. I believe that constitutes him to be able to call himself a Vet.

[oldtimer]

Amplified (aka: Fat Porkchop Tom) we all know this is you and Lilly (Eddie's Camp. Manager) talking all this trash, making this an Eddie vs. Gonzo election. As you know there are two seats available, the ideal thing would have been for Gonzo and Eddie to run as a team and get rid of Hanks but it’s too late. Eddie has allowed his campaign team to run his election to the ground, letting inexperienced people such as yourself and Lilly who don’t have any experience in politics, and I know this for a fact. Porkchop you were a big Diane Chagnon supporter. Keep up the good work; it seems that you’re on a losing streak. What you and Lilly should have been doing was walking the streets where the votes are, but instead you are walking to Mc Donald’s buying way too many Big Mac’s because they are on sale 2 for $3.50 and it shows. Stick to what you do best. Suck, Blow, and Sing. Sparticus, you are the man. I have to agree with you, you pretty much summed it up. We need more people like you who are not afraid to speak their opinion.

[porkchoptom]

To: oldtimer, amplified, redbarron, sparticus, sistermorphine,

In the last message from "oldtimer" I was personally mentioned and insulted. I am not hiding behind any aliases or "secret name", because I have no reason to do so. All of this negative campaigning is benefiting no one. I refuse to engage in any negativity because it only breeds more, so I am cordially asking all of this nonsense on this board to stop. I don't feel that the purpose of this board is to insult people, but if you find the need to insult me any further, I am including my personal e-mail address for you to do so. I am not afraid to discuss any personal issues you may have with me on a one on one basis.
Thank you,
Pork Chop Tom
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