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Post by restaurant on Mar 20, 2006 19:43:50 GMT -8
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Post by restaurant on Mar 20, 2006 19:45:48 GMT -8
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Post by restaurant on Mar 20, 2006 19:46:38 GMT -8
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Post by Aint gonna happen on Mar 22, 2006 19:55:28 GMT -8
And what exactly do Newport Beach (the Beverly Hills of Orange County) and Azusa (lower property values than El Monte) have in common???  |
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Post by DavieBoi on Mar 23, 2006 11:14:20 GMT -8
oh come on.... try to think positively about ideas like this. geez!!!  |
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Post by EXCELLENT IDEA on Mar 23, 2006 12:38:34 GMT -8
Well, most people that know Hamburger Mary's know that it's largely a gay-and-gay-friendly supperted venue. I think it's awesome that someone here mentioned it.
While I agree that you'd likely sooner see a Hamburger Mary's turn up in a larger city like Pasadena, you've got to admit that Azusa does have a large number of residents who would support such a venue. I see more liberal people, gay, and gay-friendly residents moving to Azusa all the time.
Plus, if you did put in a Hamburger Mary's, Azusa would pretty much automatically become a gay-friendly destination in the San Gabriel Valley. There might be some people that get bothered by that (certain more conservative types) because it would likely mean even more residents moving here who are open-minded. But things change with the times and Azusa, in that respect, is changing for the better.
It's just like that Will & Grace episode where Jack & Will accidentally buy a vacation house in the wrong little upstate-NY commmunity. But then they find out the town residents are refusing to ''let them leave'' because they think everything improves dramatically once ''they gays move in.'' There's actually quite a bit of truth to that theory. There was an article I read that featured several (formerly bland) suburban cities that saw property vaules and their mainstreets improve dramatically because of what they called ''gay gentrification.'' These cities basically went from obscurity to becoming local destinations.
So I say opening a Hamburger Mary's would be exactly the kind of ''thinking out of the box'' idea that would bring Azusa even more improvement. And it would lure a lot more of the creative, intelligent, open-minded tyep of people that have already moved here recently (not to mention the ones that grew up here, too!)
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Post by DavieBoi on Mar 23, 2006 16:14:07 GMT -8
Very well put! Thank you for your response - I could not have said it better myself! ;D
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Post by Just Not True on Mar 27, 2006 3:56:08 GMT -8
Pretty interesting concept...But it does oversimplify the process of bringing a city up out of "the ashes". I'm quite sure that gay people are nice and very committed to their communities - but no one segment can say they are the significant factor that turns around a City.
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Post by DavieBoi on Mar 27, 2006 7:35:36 GMT -8
Actually 'gay' people have the most dispensible income, so with that; we can turn the city around along with the 'straight' people.... we can ALL turn a city into gold.  |
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Post by Cruiser on Mar 31, 2006 11:03:08 GMT -8
DavieBoi,
That's great...before we know it, there will be "cruising" occuring in the Mountain Cove Lodge's bathrooms and swimming pool.
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Post by DavieBoi on Mar 31, 2006 11:25:36 GMT -8
What is that about?
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Post by DavieBoi on Mar 31, 2006 11:26:56 GMT -8
Cruiser - by the way - I don't 'cruise'.
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Post by Disgusting on Mar 31, 2006 12:08:31 GMT -8
Cruiser is just trying to upset people with his lame attempt at sexual discrimination. Obviously he's trying to say that lewd predatory behavior is only carried about by gay people. Convenient way of thinking for a hateful mind, no? Cruiser, I think with all these new 'different' people here, living in Azusa maybe has become uncomfortable for you. I think you check out other towns FAR FAR AWAY with people who are that ignorantly paranoid and intolerant, because Azusa isn't one of those!  |
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Post by Azusa PD on Mar 31, 2006 12:25:28 GMT -8
Lewd Predatory Behaivour? Cruising is a voluntary action by two consenting adults, 99% of the time by gay men and often involving drugs and/or unprotected sex.
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Post by whenenrome on Mar 31, 2006 13:35:28 GMT -8
I don't mean to be forward, as this isn't my board, but may I suggest you ban this poster? (1) for attempting to misrepresent themselves as the Azusa Police Department (I believe that even could be loosely construed as a crime), and (2) for continually denigrating our city's GLBT community.
As I'm sure most have figured out, his/her so-called statistics are delusional, conjured up in order to harm, divide, and demoralize people. Someone evidently needs to find more positive ways to spend free time. While it's regrettable that this idiot apparently resides in the community we share, I've lived here long enough to know that his/her rantings don't reflect the overall sentiment of Azusans new or old.
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Post by Blah blah blah on Apr 2, 2006 0:49:31 GMT -8
Why does it have to be a gay or straight thing? Good grief. How about we just talk about investing in a good business in the community and not go on and on about how someone of a particular sexual preference (be it hetero or homo) is going to "fix" the neighborhood. Will and Grace episodes? OH PLEASE! How about we stick with the real world and approach it with the knowledge that people who work together and take pride in their neighborhood improve it TOGETHER instead of the smug self congratulatory attitude and the "certain types" phrasing. That smacks or sterotyping and generalizing doesn't it? Conservatives are mindless homophobic Stepford idiots. Is that the bottom line? You need to expand your social circle just a tad. You might develop some tolerance and understanding. I was just checking on Montarra and community development after a long absence and I see that in the months I've missed the board has degenerated into a handful of people insulting each other (to include Cruiser and LA PD's juvenile comments) based on their sexual orientation, political views, religious beliefs and lifestyle choices. It seems to be the same people using different user ID names. What a waste and what a poor reflection of our community.  |
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Post by Read the riot act on Apr 2, 2006 8:06:14 GMT -8
Will and Grace episodes? OH PLEASE! How about we stick with the real world and approach it with the knowledge that people who work together and take pride in their neighborhood improve it TOGETHER instead of the smug self congratulatory attitude and the "certain types" phrasing. That smacks or sterotyping and generalizing doesn't it? Conservatives are mindless homophobic Stepford idiots. Is that the bottom line? You need to expand your social circle just a tad. You might develop some tolerance and understanding. No one in this subject was insulting conservatives, and the bringing up a story on a Will & Grace episode, you thought to take that literally? That came out of an example, explaining what a Hamburger Mary's was and what benefits it could have. Geez, shoot someone for having a light thought! I guess you think someone trying to do that is smug & self congratulatory? Whatever. But I'll take your advice and do my best developing tolerance & understanding for ignorance. Then my social circle will be expanded, tho it looks like I'll be hanging with people that have a problem with me.  Oh and after all that complaining you did abouts the comments of gay residents, thanks a bunch for your ONE token comment against the gay basher. How 'fair and balanced' of you! (and BTW, thanks to you 'wheninrome' for your more realistic comments!) |
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Post by yep yep yep on Apr 3, 2006 0:25:19 GMT -8
I see more liberal people, gay, and gay-friendly residents moving to Azusa all the time. everything improves dramatically once ''they gays move in.''
There might be some people that get bothered by that (certain more conservative types) Azusa would pretty much automatically become a gay-friendly destination in the San Gabriel Valley
Nothing up there could be perceived as insulting~ right. Why don't you change every word in there that con notates gay or liberal to hetero and conservative and read it that way. Who cares if you are gay or not? SO WHAT? What does it have to do with improving our city? Why do you feel the need to push that as the main draw of the restaurant. How about good food, great ambiance, good business practices? What if countless posts on this board referred to attracting heterosexual men and women to the community or drawing in establishments that were run by and catered mainly to traditional families? Wouldn't that seem a bit odd to you? A bit un-inclusive? Now as far as addressing the bashers~ did you want me to take them (I am certain it's the same teen) seriously? He/She is clearly just trying to irk you. Who cares.
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Post by RE excellent idea on Apr 3, 2006 13:02:44 GMT -8
Since I wrote what you're talking about.... Let me say to Blah / Yep, SORRY that a gay friendly restaurant where EVERYONE is welcome (and that's what Hamburger Mary's is) and that people would dare talk about it makes you so uncomfortable. Maybe we shouldn't talk about Kosher, Hollywood themed, Mexican, and or Asian themed (or any kind of themed) restaurants here either. It might imply something uninclusive. And nice how you lumped all my quotes together, as if they were one paragraph. Do you not read things in their entirety? Let me explain my statements to you....
This one is what it is. But why is that a problem for you? I'm not entitled to observe that? If YOU said you saw anti-gays, conservatives, and or martians moving to Azusa, I could disagree.... but I don't see how that would be offensive to say - ?
That was about a funny storyline on a WILL & GRACE episode! So the episode made me think of that ''gay gentrification'' story I saw. Again, that bothers you that I shared that?
I was talking about if a Hamburger Mary's were to come here ..... So you're saying it's NOT TRUE that more conservative people might have a problem with an openly gay friendly business? I was stating the obvious. How can you fault me for that? (and from the way you're going on about it, I think you're proving my point.)
That started off with the idea that ''if a Hamburger Mary's were to open here'' (which of course you conveniently left out). And that's what happened in places like Long Beach. Gay people lived there, moved there, and gay friendly businesses (that weren't afraid to say that they were gay friendly) opened and made it more welcoming. What is the problem with that? Let's be honest here, gay people might have a reason to be concerned about business's & resident's attitudes toward them. So what's wrong with saying ''you're welcome here?''
Assuming you, Yep Yep Yep, are the same poster as Blah Blah Blah, I think you're the one who seems to have a problem with being inclusive. You're trying to disguise it as being morally superior or some weird form of reverse equality, but that's not where you're coming from. I tell you what, if a place like Hamburger Mary's (or for example any place that waves a Rainbow Pride flag) opens, of course you're welcome to come. But if that fact that it does that is offensive to you, you don't have to go there. Deal?
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Oh and after all that complaining you did abouts the comments of gay residents, thanks a bunch for your ONE token comment against the gay basher. How 'fair and balanced' of you!